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Narayana Suktam - 17


Disciple : It seems like a long way to God realization for me ?
Master : What gives you such an impression?
Disciple : I think I still pray to God at times !
Master : So how does it matter ?
Disciple : When will I cross all the steps and realize God?
Master : If you are willing, it could happen this very moment !

verse 14
Narayanaya vidmahe vasudevaya dhimahi,
Tanno Vishnu prachodayaat

narayanaya - (the Truth called) Narayana
vidmahe - (may we) explore
vasudevaya - (the ultimate) God
dhimahi - (may we) meditate upon
tanno vishnu - (supreme consciousness) Vishnu
prachodayaat - (may) guide us to reach (Narayana)

summary - may we explore the Truth called Narayana
May we meditate upon the supreme consciousness Vishnu
who may guide us to reach the ultimate goal Narayana.

Lord Vishnu in dynamic sleep

Disciple : To realize God, one should have grace of God?
Master : True, it cant happen otherwise !
Disciple : Why cant God give me the grace ?
Master : It is for you to draw grace from God !
Disciple : How do I do that ?
Master : By being available to grace !
Disciple : How do I make my self available?
Master : Read all the episodes from the start
and if you really understood what you read,
that moment you are beginning to make yourself
available to the grace of God !

Narayana Suktam - 16

"God is both form and formless and to choose
only one of them is to remain incomplete "

Part - 16

All the forms seen by you including your own body came from the same formless source. It means that all the forms are equally divine as the formless. while Vedas begin with the glorification of forms at the start, but ends with chapters dedicated to the formless. Anyone who pulled out any odd page and tried to understand the entire Vedic scripture is going to be misled and confused. This is the plight of most people today who question the manifold approach of Vedas.

Disciple : I am so confused whether to accept the idols or not as real !
Master : Both ways you are wrong. You neither accept them nor reject them !
Disciple : What should I do then ?
Master : Understand them that they are only reminders that all
the forms you see are nothing but divine expressions !
Disciple : What should be my attitude when I see idols ?
Master : An attitude of reverence because they tell you
all the forms are necessary for you to know the formless !

ritam satyam param brahma purusham Krishna pingalam,
oordhwaretam viroopaksham vishwa roopaya vai namo namaha

ritam - cause for forms
satyam - present forever
param - ultimate
brahma - collective consciousness
purusham - (of) creator
krishna - darkness (of night)
pingalam - red sun (of the day)
oordhwaretam - up right
viroopaksham - having a third eye (of intuitiveness)
vishwa rupaya - the manifested world
namo namaha - salutations

Salutations to the ultimate consciousness
manifesting as many forms in this world during both
dark night and bright day which contains the Truth.

Disciple : Whats the significance of the dark
night and bright day spiritually ?
Master : Dark night represent the formless
and day light represent all forms !
Disciple : Should I recognize both as important in my life ?
Master : Yes, in darkness the differences are
not visible so its formless and in the day time
the differences are vividly visible so its all about forms.
You should be able to see divinity in both
in order to find fulfillment in life !

Defining God ( Narayana Suktam - 15 )

"greatness of the Vedic wisdom is that it does not
restrict truth to a single God or a single religion"

Part - 15

The many Gods that occupy the vedic chapters are only functional aspects of life in this world. Vedas encourage the seeker to see the presence of divinity in every aspect of life while he is living now. It is this basic tenet of vedas in defining God where the seeker is enabled to experience higher realms of consciousness now and here without delay.

Disciple : The many Gods represent many paths?
Master : Many Gods represent many possibilities !
Disciple : What possibilities are they ?
Master : Possibilities to rise in the realm of consciousness !

verse 12

tasya shikhaya madhye paramatma vyavastitaha
sa brahma sa shiva sa hari sendra sokshara parama swaraat

tasya - that
shikhaya - flame
madhye - in the center
paramatma - universal consciousness
vyavastitaha - is located

summary - In the center of the flame of the heart,
the essence of the universe is present.

Disciple : Is the Consciousness not present in other places?
Master : It is present everywhere but in the heart
of the heart it is present at it most subtlest form !
Disciple : Is it my own personal Consciousness too ?
Master : Consciousness is never personal but it gives
an impression that there is personal Consciousness !
Disciple : Does everyone have similar Consciousness?
Master : Yes, everything including animals and plants
contain the same Consciousness !
Disciple : Upon death it would move away ?
Master : Upon death the body and mind move away
and the Consciousness remains wherever it is !

sa brahma - it is (the source of)brahma
sa shiva - it is (the source of) shiva
sa hari - it is (the source of) hari
sendra - it is (the source of) indra
sokshara - it is (the source of) akshara
parama - it is the ultimate
swaraat - ungoverned by anything.

summary - This Consciousness is the essence of all gods like
brahma, shiva, hari, indra, akshara and is not under any one's control.

Disciple : So even the Gods have the same consciousness as me?
Master : Exactly. Even the Gods are various
manifestations of the same Consciousness only.
Disciple : Whats the difference between God and Consciousness?
Master : Consciousness is un manifest Truth and Gods are
instrumental factors in manifesting the Truth of Consciousness.
Disciple : I think I understood but not exactly !
Master : Does not matter, keep contemplating and
it may just dawn upon you someday soon.

"since God created the world of good and
bad, it stands far above the good and bad"

narayana suktam
Part - 14

If God created this universe, then God is certainly something more than creation itself. God existed even before its "creation". The creation is good or bad is not a clear idea to anyone. Sometimes when you are in trouble the creation of this world may look like a wrong idea. But its all perfectly fine when everything seem to go right for you. The good and bad are such slippery ideas that God cannot be trapped into it. Perhaps since God has been the instrumental in driving people to define good and bad, we must grant God as someone who is beyond both.

Disciple : So God is neither good nor bad?
Master : In fact nothing in creation is good or bad !
Disciple : Is it not sunlight and rains are good?
Master : May be till certain limit and when it shines
or rains beyond a point you may start cursing them !
Disciple : Good and bad do not apply to nature?
Master : Your good and bad does not remain the same
at another point of time in your life !

verse 11 - defining god

neelatoyadhamadhyasta dvidyullekheva bhaaswara
neevarashookavatanvee peetabhaswatyanupama

neela toyadha - the dark cloud
madhyasthad - in the middle
vidyullekheva (vidyut+lekha+eva) -
like a streak of lightening
bhaswaraa -
neevarashookavat -
like the tip of a paddy grain
tanvee -
sharp and subtle
peeta -
golden hue
anupama -
subtle like atom
bhaswati -

Summary -
Like a silver lining in a dark cloud, God is present in a very subtle form(like the tip of a paddy grain) shining with golden hue.

is God really good ?

Disciple : If God is not good then God can be bad?
Master : That's my question to you !
Disciple : I don't understand this really !
Master : If you say God is good then you mean
God is actually not bad. Am I right ?
Disciple : Yes, you just said it !
Master : Which means you are saying that
God can actually be bad but presently is good ?
Disciple : I never thought that way !
Master : That's OK, anything which is good
now can be bad at other times !

" you can neither forget nor remember God "

narayana suktam
Part - 13

God is not just a name or a person to remember or forget. God is not a memory of a distant past event or of someone who lived in the dead past. Memorizing God's name can bring peace to the flustered mind but will never help realize God. Its a reality which keeps this existence throbbing now at this time, every time. Narayana is just the name of that reality, which cannot be accessed by any memory, but only by razor sharp easy awareness, just about everything you are in touch with now.

Disciple : Is it a waste of time to memorize the many mantras ?
Master : Its not a necessity. You can do it without memorizing
anything except some emergency telephone numbers !
Disciple : I see many people who recite mantras from memory ?
Master : Let them recite, if you keep reciting they get memorized
on their own in you. You don't have to try hard and remember them !

verse 10 - defining god

tiryagoordhwa madhash sayee rasmayas tasya santata
santapayati swam deha mapada tala mastakaha
tasya madhye vahni shikha aneeryordhwa vyavasthitaha

tiryag - crisscrossing
urdhwam - upwards
adha - downwards
shayee - spread (everywhere)
rashmayaha - rays
tasya - that (flame)
santata - pervading always

summary - That flame is crisscrossing from upwards,
downwards and spreads its rays everywhere all the time.

Disciple : Can this flame be called Consciousness?
Master : Yes, it can be called that way !
Disciple : So the Consciousness is like a flame ?
Master : The flame does not exist, its only a imagery !
Disciple : Though not seen, still it functions pretty
much like the descriptions in the above verse?
Master : Yes, it pervades in every direction. But
it has a place of origin as heart where it apparently begins !

The rays of the heart pervading everywhere

santapayati - warms up
swam deham - your body
apaada - from foot
tala - (to) the tip of head
mastakaha - everything

summary - (that flame) keeps the human body
warm and alive from head to toe always.

tasya madhya - in the center (of the heart)
vahni - firey
shikha - flame
aneeyordhwa - standing gently
vyawastitaha - placed.

summary - this fiery flame is gently burning in
the center of the spiritual heart.

Disciple : It amazing to know that something so close
but still everyone is searching for it everywhere else?
Master : The burning flame in the heart in fact drives
the senses and humans to search everywhere else !
Disciple : Why it is that way ?
Master : Perhaps Narayana is having some fun !

" a believer of God may never find God "

narayana suktam

Part - 12

A believer keeps believing that there is a God and stop seeking and finding the same. A believer of God usually lives in a fantasy world created by his own limited mind about God. In contrast to a non believer who has a slim chance of questioning the existence of God and as a result might find some day. A believer stagnates on the path with his self glorification and end up as a loser.

Disciple : Oh my God ! I have been so proud that I have been a believer !
Master : That pride alone is what you get and nothing else !
Disciple : But at least I am not having difficulties with the existence
of God as I already believe in it unlike the non- believer ?
Master : If you thought a life without difficulties is what
one has to achieve on the spiritual path then you have a point there !
Disciple : Then is it about having difficulties on the path ?
Master : Neither, but to rise above the difficulty and know the divinity !

verse 9
- defining god

tasya madhye mahanagnirvishwachir vishwatomukhaha
sograbhugvibhajantishtannaharamajara kavihi

tasye madhye - in the center (of the lotus like heart)
maha agni - the great flame
vishwachi - spreading its light
vishwatomukhaha - in all the directions

summary - In the center of the heart, the flame is
spreading its light in all directions.

Disciple : To believe what you said just now is wrong ?
Master : Its neither right nor wrong but if you only
believe what I said now then you are incomplete in your
understanding about God !
Disciple : So what should I do instead of believing it ?
Master : You should try to realize it for your self

flames of a spiritual heart (imagery)

sograbhug - (this flame is) the actual consumer
vibhajan - and then distributes (as energy)
ahaaram - of the food (you eat)
tishtan - and remains steady
ajara - also remains unattached
kavihi - and as the knower of all

summary - This sacred flame consumes the food you eat and then distributes equally to all parts of your body and sustains life in it. However this flame remains steady and unattached to your body while knowing it and supporting it all the time.

Disciple : How do I realize this flame ?
Master : is it a problem to you ?
Disciple : Somehow believing seem easier !
Master : Do you believe your hunger when you have it ?
Disciple : How I can believe my hunger? Its so real !
Master : How would you know when there is hunger in you ?
Disciple : I just know it, I guess I realize it !
Master : Well, do the same with this flame of existence in you !

"below the heart man is like an animal
and above the heart he is like God"

narayana suktam
Part - 11

Spiritual heart is link between man's animal tendencies and divine propositions. The copulation, accumulation, fear, survival are the priorities of a man when he functions from below the heart. He is known to be spiritual only when he begin to express from his heart center. For the first time the man begin to feel and express love instead of competition and comparison, when his energies rise to the heart center.

verse 8 - defining god

Santatagam shilabhistu lambatya kosha sannibham,
Tasyante sushiragam sookshmam tasmin sarvam pratishtitam.

santatagam - from all (four) directions
shilabhihi - the nervous system
lambati - hanging
akosha sannibham - lotus flower like heart

summary - the lotus like heart is hanging with the help of all the nerves running from all the directions (ending at the center of the chest).

Disciple : Sometimes you said that the highest form of energy is
flowing at the top of the head, now you mention as the heart region?
Master : The energy is same. But at heart it is a raw energy
and when it is processed at the head it becomes very subtle
and refined energy. But in essence its the same energy !
Disciple : I understand that now. The mode of functioning
keep changing at different parts of the body ?
Master : Very well said !

(the symbolic image of a lotus indicating the spiritual heart)

tasya ante - inside that (heart)
sushiragam - very minutely
sukshmam - very subtly
tasmin sarvam - (source of) everything
pratishtitam - is located.

summary - In a very subtle manner the very origin of this creation is present inside the spiritual heart of your body.

Disciple : Is it the same with every spiritual heart of everyone ?
Master : Yes, structurally its the same with everyone !
Disciple : Why only some come to know it ?
Is it a kind of disappointment with the
world which drives them to search
for this spiritual heart !
Master : Disappointed people will only search for solace
or solution. But only those who are disenchanted with what
world has to offer, can actually explore the spiritual heart !